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How convenient for you Merlin, I’m glad you sorted it out oh BTW have you heard from that good friend of yours fcs/wil, now he seemed to know a lot about winos, probably was one, I wouldn’t know, maybe he was trying to call and thank you for speaking up for him, who knows?

As far as inferring it was us and mainly Halexzo, well you did, check your post




And typically others jumped in agreeing, so once again you have all shown what the circus is about. Please don’t apologise with the excuse that you did it in the heat of passion.

You & daz decided to post a private receipt of mine on your circus and I will kindly ask you to remove it as it has nothing to do with any of you or the circus, it is a private receipt of a donation made by me but you and all at the circus find it acceptable to go into my album albeit a public album to just take it and publish it, if you all find that acceptable then your government better chain down everything that is in public places where ever you live. We’ll see if gptb has any decency.

Now I have shown that you and daz publish your names right there on your circus so don’t you all accuse me of posting personal information specially you, wagdoll.

As far as active members stats for the circus goes, you only have a handful and apart from the main posters, the rest are there to gain referrals………..period.

TO DAZ co-owner of GPTB

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Merlin, since when did I give you permission to use my name? I used yours because you, yourself plastered it at your circus, I didn’t put mine there, you and daz did that. The only rotten smell is where you are, it’s the smell of your rotting soul through hatred of a site and it’s members and mainly me at the moment.

As for being childish it is you who is being the biggest child here. The letterhead is not blocked, so take a look at it or don’t you know what a letterhead is? What is the objection you have about me making a donation to the hospital? And the reference to Wil/freecashspace would have been correct if I hadn’t realized I had scanned the wrong receipt and had posted it, he would have probably falsified that one too with the blessings of all supporters of gptb or you would have used it like you are now doing to try and insinuate that I didn't make the donation on behalf of Bill. But really I think you feel a certain power having posted my personal information there by stealing it, how tall do you feel? And daz is that badge hitting the ground, if you ever did have one that is?

My remarks stand as wil/freecashspace knew very well that I was asked to pay that amount on his behalf. Were you in chat the date this happened? As far as I’m concerned, the payment was made and I did tell him that the receipt will be posted on BG forum when he declined my sending it to him or giving his address to the hospital and it was. The receipt you have posted is not the receipt in question and I have explained what happened and why the reference to wil is on my receipt but I really didn’t have to explain anything to you as it is non of your business, you are a crook for invading my privacy by going into my album, albeit a public album at the time and daz is just as bad if not worse if he is a policeman.

So again you LARRY ELWOOD (moderator of Get PAID to BOYCOTT) and RONALD W NANCE ( co-owner of get PAID to BOYCOTT & supposedly a policeman) have stooped to the lowest of lows and you have now proven to everyone how you will try and bully anyone who dares speak up against get PAID to BOYCOTT and that AMY LYNN was correct about your forum. Everything you have said about her, you are hundred time worse and proven you are vindictive and will use anything to try and prove you are more knowledgeable about protecting the PTR industry but you haven’t, you are nothing but vindictive, jealous cheats who will report anyone to PP & the IRS if they don’t agree with you, so PO’s out there, take note.

As for you Rob, you could not careless about the clickers out there other than lining your pocket and providing a place for mostly sick bitter people to post and take out their frustrations on others.

Like Yokoda said, there is karma so watch out and please don’t come up with your accusations about getting calls and blaming it on me or any BG members, that seems to be a recurring thing when things aren't going the boycotters way, I recall seeing the same drama in other threads. The way you carry yourself on line, I would say you have many enemies out there, so happy looking over your shoulder. My conscience is clear is yours?

A WARNING TO ALL POs & CLICKERS - DO NOT PROVIDE YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION TO GET
PAID TO BOYCOTT AND IF YOU USE IMAGECAVE OR ANY STORING SITES TO STORE PERSONAL DOCUMENTS
MAKE SURE YOU SET YOUR FOLDERS TO PRIVATE AS THE FRAUDSTERS WILL STEAL YOUR DOCUMENTS AND USE THEM TO TWIST TO SUIT THEIR VENDETTA AGAINST YOU OR THE SITE.

PERSONALLY I WOULD KEEP AN EYE ON THEM BUT NOT JOIN THEM..

TO DAZ co-owner of GPTB

Hello, Yokoda!
We've noticed that you've not been active on GPTBoycott Discussion Forum for quite some time now, and we miss you!
Could we not tempt you back?
Kindest Regards
GPTBoycott Discussion Forum

They are pretty desparate sending out mails to get more invold the mudslinging there
No sorry, I will NOT go post there again till they change the mismanagment done by Merlin Daz and Ron


If you saw ALL what happend in the past. If you heard how it all started and what people said about Bill, Halexzo and BGPM staff
well I must say personal I would not been as patient as Bill was. His behavour was only a small part of what he could have said or done only a tip of the Iceberg.
Take the mails, words out of the context and that is always looks bad
I would say: Provoke a Polar bear and you sure will been eaten up ( more simple for those unwilling to understand :as a matter of speaking )




SORRY wagdoll NO I DO NOT UNDERSTAND as it is NOT a site trying to warn people of bad practice in PTR as simple as you state it here
It is a site run by people with other agenda's Merlin reported Sites to PP so PTR site had to shut down because of frosen account without investigations. It happended not only to bad sites!!!!
That is not WARNING PEOPLE
Using complaints of PTR members seemed a good idea but it is obvious for many years now that the system used at BOYGOT is not FAIR or Objective. Even WORSER Nobody beside a few unknow people using UNCLEAR RULES and a TURBID procedure
or use unjustified complaints
More and more members in PTR are aware of those problems and therefore Boygott lost ALL credibility
For me it is very suprising that the sharp loyal members from boygot use their precious time ( for those who has real lifes)
and energy to fight BGPM and not for the real problems over there
You can't blame BGPM for asking Questions and for GPTB losing their credibility. You can't stop the proces of awareness of what is going on at boygott




Merlin to be honest that is exact what I think it is YOUR STATEMENT IS NOTHING MORE AS A DRAMA TO KEEP THAT TREAT GOING. As I am 100% sure if that call was that bad you would have put all words been said in the PUBLIC FORUM THERE for all to read.
All you did was saying you had a CALL and You DID ACCUSED Halexzo F4J and Donna of being responsible for it
and you also showed the real reason why you did that : "sending out Merlins dream mail "

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The truth according to me.

Oops too late.........

Merlin may not be a hacker but he certainly is a thief, before you cry libel, I think you better take a look at all the BGPM threads.

Where did I continue my barrage on Wil, you two are the ones that brought wil into the discussion after you thought you could twist this thread into making me look like a liar and it is you two who are trying to deceive everyone and thereby attacking me and defaming me and BGPM again, causing untold damage to my reputation….. think again, big cop!!!!

I did a screenshot of your post and the whole page and if you want to give your stolen page to his attorney, you are welcome to do so.

I think, Merlin panicked with that phone call and it could very well have been a return call from wil aka freecashspace after being told of how he had managed to steal that receipt. As always JMO.

What would your crime be daz? lets see, attempt to defame, defraud, being in receipt of stolen document, accomplice to theft. There could be a bit more there, will have to let my lawyer look at it. Like you I do not tolerate liars and definitely not a crooked cop!

So I’ve posted all three copies of receipts below for all to judge for themselves, no circus supporters need judge as you will surely twist as much as you can.

What is my crime? Is the receipt for my donation altered? Am I not allowed to donate?

Was the donation made on behalf of FCS by me?

If not why would I have a receipt for him with a different number to mine and a different date? And their attorneys are welcome to view the receipts or contact the hospital with those receipt numbers.

Merlin you should have used that phone call to contact the hospital instead. JMO



My Receipt


Wil's receipt



Falsified receipt by wil




A WARNING TO ALL POs & CLICKERS - DO NOT PROVIDE YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION TO GET PAID TO BOYCOTT AND IF YOU USE IMAGECAVE OR ANY STORING SITES TO STORE PERSONAL DOCUMENTS MAKE SURE YOU SET YOUR FOLDERS TO PRIVATE AS THE FRAUDSTERS WILL STEAL YOUR DOCUMENTS AND USE THEM TO TWIST AND SUIT THEIR VENDETTA AGAINST YOU OR THE SITE. PERSONALLY I WOULD KEEP AN EYE ON THEM BUT NOT JOIN THEM.

TO DAZ co-owner of GPTB

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Yup,"something smells rotten in Denmark" at that circus, we knew that

We also know that the receipt that was posted about wil is the correct one, and the other that you and dazhiredgun posted IS a PRIVATE donation and has NOTHING to do with BG/BILL/WILL , one for wil and one was private, I understand you can't think to well and forget a lot, but maybe it will sink in eventually that you all (general) have NOT a leg to stand on with you FALSE ACCUSATION .

and why is DAzHiredGun not taking HIS OWN warning he posted for someone else? Or is this AGAIN a Do as I say, NOT as I do, situation?



And merlin, I personally DON'T believe you got ANY PHONE CALL at all, you were just desperate to accuse us of anything, that is just the type of person you are.

Gee whiz, a call from a pub in australia, and on top of it from a pay phone, couldn't come up with something better then that?Where is your imagination you are so well known for?

.

Are you that used to your own insults you been throwing around? Is that the way you are in real life? If so, then I feel almost sorry for you, as that would seem to me that you are a very bitter and hateful person towards anyone who does NOT agree with you.

You can dish it out but you can't take the heat, right Well merlin, you reap what you sow, and if it is to hot in the kitchen for you, I say get out



not only are you crude and INSULTING, etc.... you tell blatant LIES again as usual.



you are more talk then anything, you accuse but have NO proof of anything you say, so why don't you stuff a sock in it and think before you type, INSULTING enough for you?



How vulgar and vile and INSULTING is that?

And those are just a few, I have plenty of those insults you posted .



You got that right, all you doing is making yourself look like a fool, with your FALSE alligations and childlike responses when you dont get your way, even resort to accusing us of calling you, now how pathetic is that?



Nothing new, we already knew you all (general) couldn't answer without incriminating yourselfs, sooooooooooo, AGAIN,

AVOIDANCE MEANS WE ARE RIGHT ABOUT THAT CIRCUS

as always.................JMO

Wil falsified a screenshot of a legal document
Merlin falsely accuses a BG member of falsifying the original document
A self claimed ex cop jumps the gun and backs the false accuser
And, all the others jump in with comments that show they believe everything said by the accuser and the ex cop.

When their accusations are proved false, Merlin keeps going with more accusations.

The next story is a doozy. (gotta admit Merlin sure is creative, lol) He all of a sudden get's either a harrassing or annoying phone call, comes in here insinuating that WE are behind it. (And, of course, everyone over there BELIEVES it, lol) Then comes back, saying the call was traced to a public phone from a Pub in Australia?
(Well, gee, Merlin, maybe you should have called the CIA after that, as that's an international affair.)

Uh, Merlin? You taking all this down?

Ok, another issue, lol. AmyLynn.

AmyLynn got her feelings hurt by the school of sharks on a feeding frenzy because they were jealous that Robbie Boy appointed HER as a moderator instead of one of them.

She writes an article called "I Do Not Support GPTBoycott" about her experience and publishes it on AC, where a few of the sharks (including Merlin) also publish their articles.

AmyLynn's article takes off big time, getting so many page views that the sharks become jealous - especially Merlin, because one of his articles only drew in 11 page views, lol.

Merlin reports AmyLynn to AC out of personal vendetta, using TOS violations as the reason.

AC, who claims they have been aware of the situation, (and, if they were, they didn't care as long as the traffic came in and no one complained) now had no choice but to cancel AmyLynn's account for their own self protection - as we all know how vindictive Merlin is - who would have gone to Google AdSense to report if he didn't get his way with AC.

Of course Merlin gloats of his success to get AmyLynn busted (thinking her article would, then, disappear, too). But, it didn't, lol.

AC is still getting more traffic to AmyLynn's article than the others. It's a money-making article, after all because people are reading it.

Anyway, now it's back to picking up where they left off on us again, lol.

Got that all down, Merlin?

Truth as to why they keep coming back to discussing BGPayMail, is two-fold. We scare them and Rob needs traffic.

After boycotting us we proved to them that they couldn't shut us down like they did some other programs they boycotted.

We showed the GPT Industry that anyone with integrity, honesty and the guts to stand up to GPTBoycott CAN survive.

So, with research, and common sense questions, people started listening - AND standing up against GPTBoycott by declining invitations from GPTBoycott to discuss matters of boycotting, offering hope to be unboycotted. (And, of course, if a PO doesn't accept the invitation, then they say the PO doesn't care about their own members.) Others, too, are speaking out about GPTBoycott, asking the same questions we did.

People are replying to blogs, articles, saying what they see on GPTBoycott (calling them cronies with biased mudslinging.....negative....)

These "cronies" want BGPayMail BAD. They don't want the truth to be spread. They don't want people thinking for themselves or asking questions. They are AFRAID they will lose what LITTLE power and control they THINK they still have.

They LOST their ability to get unboycotted sites to stop letting boycotted sites be advertised. FEWER and FEWER GPT sites are linking to GPTBoycott. And, MORE and MORE people are speaking out.

PEOPLE ARE LISTENING, folks. THE WORD IS GETTING OUT! PEOPLE ARE ASKING QUESTIONS and using COMMON SENSE LOGIC!

So, not only are these power/control hungry liars, false accusers stirring up MORE LIES and ACCUSATIONS, they are ALSO bringing in the traffic GPTBoycott needs to survive.

Sad thing is, they are like horses with only one blinder. All they see is the glory of GPTBoycott while they BLINDED themselves to the TRUTH.

TRUTH IS that GPTBoycott is hanging themselves rather than LISTENING to the feedback that's spreading and DOING the right things to IMPROVE their image. They CAN do that by finding BETTER ways to suit GPTBoycott's (supposed) PURPOSE.

We've even offered suggestions, and asked questions of them, hoping THEY can see the TRUTH.

Sometimes, self incrimminating can be a GOOD way to see your own mistakes and, perhaps, lead you to the path of TRUTH.

The TRUTH IS in this business, that it takes integrity, honesty and SINCERE DESIRE to HELP the GPT Industry. It also takes DEDICATION and HARD WORK to make it prosperous. Yes, even GPTBoycott CAN prosper through decent ads published on a site with decent discussions and fair and unbiased methods of boycotting.

But, GPTBoycott hasn't done that, nor are they willing to do so.

SO BE IT! Your CHOICE! So, don't go crying that it's our fault when people get tired of seeing your crap and you have no traffic.

Oh, and DAzHiredGun? It is YOU who should "think twice" before attempting to defame one's character with your own libelous comments (false accusations) and displaying a legal document (with surname) for nothing more than deceptive purposes. F4J HAS PROOF - What do YOU have?


attempt to defame one's character

Post #2308, dated 03-24-2008, 19:48 - DAzHiredGun
Keep in mind WHO has the REAL documents, should she take you to court - OR vise versa (lol, I can just SEE you taking F4J to court and trying to defend what wil did and not be able to prove that SHE falsified anything.)

Why is it that now the conversation has reverted back to wil and those receipts? Why is it that none of you all called the number on those receipts to verify the authenticity of them? If you all called it would certainly prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are correct wouldn't it and then you would have the smoking gun correct? Nah, you know that if you call and verify them that it shoots your theories about them out of the water.

As to blocking off the letterhead, how so? The hospital name, logo, address and phone number are clearly visible. The only thing blocked is the salutation.

For the ex-cop stepping in, its too little, too late. On top of that you should have been ensuring that everyone's opinions were welcome at your forum. You should have also been putting much more energy into all the sites out there that you all feel screw people over and ensured they were boycotted.

However, you all are obsessed with proving that those at Bg are silenced. The goal was achieved, Bg was boycotted, move on.

The only thing rotten going on is the continued allowing of the types of remarks being made there at others. Since the forum portrays themselves as the saviors and all knowing and are talking about other programs which in turn can effect their businesses, then the ex cop should know that boycott forum is more liable than anyone.

Blowing smoke doesn't resolve the situation. If the purpose of the forum is not traffic then do the honorable thing as an ex cop and make Bgpaymail a forbidden topic. That would stop the insanity and would allow your forum to move on to the issues at hand which are non paying sites, not a program that you all boycotted.

Don't want to answer the questions asked of you, fine don't answer them. As, I said, if you are clearly correct in everything you say and do, then close the Bg threads.

I have a notion however, the Bg threads will not be closed nor forbidden to discuss Bg because that is where the traffic comes from. Certainly there will be comebacks about why you won't close the discussion on Bg but whatever they are will almost certainly have school yard antic reasons for keeping it going.

I will say again I am not impressed with those coming in spewing cow dung, attempting to sound all knowing. The solution is simple and your prerogative, but be certain that by not answering questions and keeping the redundant arguments going you thereby reduce the credibility your site once had.

That is exactly why they don't want to verify the truth, would shoot their bogus accusations right out the water.

Is it not strange that when DAzHiredGun and merlin posted the private information, the rest of the gang *they know who they are) seemed to have vanished.

Guess they are afraid their private info will be posted and must obviously not agree with what that circus allows to be posted, well so it 'seems'

Instead of speaking up and disagreeing, to what obviously was a privacy violation, and if it would been one of us here who started it first, they would have hammered away at it and called us all kind of low lifes and names,all those diehard supporters of gptB just keep quiet for now until the storm passes and they feel save again

At least ALL can see the double standard clearly now and their motto, DO as I SAY, NOT as I DO.

We see what they come up with next to falsely accuse us AGAIN, as that WILL happen, that we can be sure of, since the 'supposedly' phone call that merlin received, didn't work either as he had to ADMIT it was NONE of us here as it 'supposedly' came from a pub in australia and from a pay phone at that

Bill has not prevented anyone from posting there, read the terms AGAIN, maybe it will sink in for you this time, and besides the poster you addressed there seemed to me to be agreeing with BG, that was the REAL reason you said what you did, was it not?So typical of you all (general) and sooooooooo predictable.



here is the post that 'enufalready' made, so everybody can see why BD had to reply:

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They only ones trying to make something out of nothing is you all (general) there, nothing fishy about those receipts and has been explained, I suggest AGAIN ,call the charity and once and for all proof that you all are wrong, simple.

Is making a personal donations against you all's rules?

besides BD, it was one of YOUR buddies,merlin posted those receipts and violated the privacy of someone.
Of course he is trying to deflect from answering some questions to the problems at that circus has, nothing else.

And on top of it, merlin accused us of calling his house (still laughing about that
one)which we all know was another one of his accusation, all in the name of finding anything at all to deflect from the problems that circus has and you trying to do the same with you post now.

So where do you get it being us that is trying to deflect?

Seems to me you openly just admitted that posting private INFO is ok with you and I guess it would NOT bother you either if your REAL name be put on display for all on line to see? Because we all know google will pick up anything, including the real name/ that was posted by merlin and dazhiredgun.



Look who is/was in that BG thread there, the same little group that is so feverishly trying to defend anything and everthing that is done wrong , or NOT done at all (but should be) at that circus,

the same little group who attacks, insults, accuses, lies about, assumes etc.... anyone who does NOT agree with them.

And the only ones who shot themselves in the foot, is gptB---get PAID to boycott They more you all (general) contribute , they more fishy that circus looks and with every post you all (general) make, they more it proofs WE ARE RIGHT about that circus.

And WHAT wisdom BD If you talk about your yada yada, yup, you right, IT IS wasted

You NOT ALL that BD,try to be yourself instead someone you are NOT, maybe you would not be such a sour puss all the time




That circus screwed up big time for a long long time now and continues to do so.

And what are you rambling on about me wanting them to come over here and justify their complaint? Are you losing it?

What I did say, that those complaints (and not just for bg) can NOT be verified as it is now at that circus.

One can submit one using a FALSE NAME and NO USERNAME is required nor is any PO given the needed username to verify that such was/is a member or what the problem may have been.



that is what you all had hoped for, was it not?
for us to quietly take all those lies, accusations, assumptiuons, insults etc.... and go away.

Dream on, there is to much wrong with that circus to just take all the c... that you all (general) dish out to just take it and move on.

It is about time that others also see what gptB is all about, and we are NOT just the only ones who think so, as you well know, nor is Bill the ONLY PO who took a stand against it.



You are some piece of work BD, talking about fault (s), before you cast stones, look at you all (general)and the accusations , insults, lies, assumptions, belittling, vicous attacks etc.... and take a look at that circus and it's many faults then ask yourself why so many now come forward and take a stand against?

Had you all tried to straighten out some of what is wrong with that circus instead of getting on your all's soap boxes to impress Rob and your buddies (you know who you are) gptB might not have the reputation it has now, which is NOT good at all.

And how DARE you accuse anyone of sponging of anybody, you don't have a clue what you talking about, as usual one of your many, many accusations .You have a very sick mind BD, you just showed how sick, actually very sad



Must be talking about your buddies as I know I have a real life, full of exitement and people who love me, and don't need those fake get ups to impress anyone either as some do (they know who they are)

As far as what you quoted from yourself, (which is also in the link to your yada yada))that has been answered over and over again and all I have to say is that besides that little gang there (who know who they are) none of the members of BG are complaining, does that tell you anything?


as always........................JMO

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Maybe you should get your daughter to interpret that addendum for you.





Ok Thomas, until you see them with your own eyes you will go on insinuating so take a plane over, come and view them or just in case you can’t afford it, call the hospital and ask, simple.

And my opinion will be in red.






I think you should be telling the truth and the ‘mea culpas’ right now together with your friends, you want to be boss but act like thugs. Oh, how are you so sure we don’t have real jobs and again you are insinuating or is it casting aspersions that we are sponging, why? Is that what you did when you were a member, please tell us how you did it. We don’t have soap boxes here, they've been taken by GPTB for the use of their supporters.





Soooooooooo boring, then why do you keep coming back huh. If you were genuine bd after coming in and trying to make us give up the fight, in what we believe in, what was it you said at the time “I’m not a follower, I’m a leader” and you really cared about Bill and BGPM at the time, you wouldn’t have kept coming back to the thread to stir the pot by doing that you showed you were just bitter we wouldn’t take orders from you or anyone.

JMUPO

TO DAZ co-owner of GPTB

A WARNING TO ALL POs & CLICKERS - DO NOT PROVIDE YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION TO GET PAID TO BOYCOTT AND IF YOU USE IMAGECAVE OR ANY STORING SITES TO STORE PERSONAL DOCUMENTS MAKE SURE YOU SET YOUR FOLDERS TO PRIVATE AS THE FRAUDSTERS WILL STEAL YOUR DOCUMENTS AND USE THEM TO TWIST AND SUIT THEIR VENDETTA AGAINST YOU OR THE SITE. PERSONALLY I WOULD KEEP AN EYE ON THEM BUT NOT JOIN THEM.

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Well that is the biggest joke I've heard from anyone over there and to come from a super moderator, if this is 'relatively sane manner' I'd hate to see their relatively insane manner.

and as usual the main posters jump on the unsuspecting new member of their forum because he/she did not post insults and defamation against BG. must have been a pleasant experience for him/her, bet he/she would have been received with open arms if it was the other way round.

JMUPO

TO DAZ co-owner of GPTB

A WARNING TO ALL POs & CLICKERS - DO NOT PROVIDE YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION TO GET PAID TO BOYCOTT AND IF YOU USE IMAGECAVE OR ANY STORING SITES TO STORE PERSONAL DOCUMENTS MAKE SURE YOU SET YOUR FOLDERS TO PRIVATE AS THE FRAUDSTERS WILL STEAL YOUR DOCUMENTS AND USE THEM TO TWIST AND SUIT THEIR VENDETTA AGAINST YOU OR THE SITE. PERSONALLY I WOULD KEEP AN EYE ON THEM BUT NOT JOIN THEM.

LMAO now someone else is being accused of being me.

As per usual, that person was less than welcomed at that forum.

BD maybe it is you who needs the real life job. I see you enlisted your buddies help so that you all would have another new voice. How ironic you all did receive a new voice but it was not one that agreed with you all, so that person was directed to the rules.

If this is sooooooo boring and droll, why do you keep putting your nose right in the middle of the discussion? It was you who said you ignored us yet time and again you post. How long will it be before you decide to post again?

Nice try Bell but you have your facts out of order and then twisted them to make boycott sound like the oppressed.

As trivial and childish as this seems, Boycott started this by becoming involved in one complaint about non payment.

Remember 2 years ago, a person complained about non payment which was what a week over due at the time. A time when all members were notified of the paypal issue. Did you forget that the member was paid?

Do you remember how you and a handful of the same players today started the crusade to degrade and ridicule Bg? Do you remember the so called vile emails came out AFTER the boycott garbage?

There has been name calling on both sides. Two wrongs do not make a right, but suffice to say boycott forum has continued the vendetta.

Yes, Bg members have continued to correct misconstrued information posted at boycott. As you all there say, you are protecting your names, so it should be a fair assumption that Bg members and the owner have the right to defend the program against the numerous slanderous/libelous content spilled over there.

Can you say without a doubt that the nefarious boycott forum is without fault? Can you or anyone prove that everything they are saying is fact and not fiction?

And can you say that the phone call Merlin received actually happened? Myself I know what it costs to use a payphone to make a local call for one minute. I can not imagine what it would cost to use a payphone in Australia to call the USA.

This has gotten out of hand and it could be ended by boycott forum. As I said before, if the owners do not wish to answer questions the least they could do is lock all bg threads and make it a forbidden topic. Again, though, the traffic would come to a screeching halt. If the traffic is NOT important than I say the owners should put their money where their mouth is and close the bg threads. Move on to other sites needing attention. Will they do it? Doubtful.

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If that’s what you want to insinuate then so be it, if members are adult enough they should work out their differences with the PO first before going to any forums.IMO.



Wronggggggggggg, they don’t post for the very reason of how you have just treated a new member when he/she tried to voice an opinion but because it was not against BGPM, he/she was jumped on, simple enough for you? enufalready worked it out why couldn't you?

But Gertrude did have you wondering for a while didn’t she and you wouldn’t have bothered finding out who she was if she hadn’t pointed out the double standards regarding the PONZI SCAMS AND GET RICH SCHEMES gptb was advertising while you all sat on your high horses and chastised every PO who so much as had one of those ads showing, would you? And this is why you are after me still now isn’t it? However, my answers were given to Rob. And by the way you have an account at BG what does that make you or why do you not reveal you username because you know you are breaking the rules but don't want to be deleted from the site?

JMUPO

TO DAZ co-owner of GPTB

A WARNING TO ALL POs & CLICKERS - DO NOT PROVIDE YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION TO GET PAID TO BOYCOTT AND IF YOU USE IMAGECAVE OR ANY STORING SITES TO STORE PERSONAL DOCUMENTS MAKE SURE YOU SET YOUR FOLDERS TO PRIVATE AS THE FRAUDSTERS WILL STEAL YOUR DOCUMENTS AND USE THEM TO TWIST AND SUIT THEIR VENDETTA AGAINST YOU OR THE SITE. PERSONALLY I WOULD KEEP AN EYE ON THEM BUT NOT JOIN THEM.

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Tut tut tut Larry Elwood, what a tantrum you are having, that is your name posted all over the circus by yourself so what’s the big deal? Or are you ashamed of your name or perhaps don't want it linked to Merlin the wizard?

The only reason I used it was because you posted a private receipt that you obtained by dubious means so don’t know why you’re so upset? But wait………….I know it’s because........ again I’ve shown what thief, scammer and lowest of lows you are to go that far so you can twist to deflect the wrong, gptb does through, you the posters. And you do it all with the blessings of the moderators, main posters and co-owner who had his part in it. And why reply to davidj31 with a rant to me.

So have your fun, I am proud of my name and have done nothing wrong. Oh, please watch your back as there is KARMA. as always JMUPO

TO DAZ co-owner of GPTB

A WARNING TO ALL POs & CLICKERS - DO NOT PROVIDE YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION TO GET PAID TO BOYCOTT AND IF YOU USE IMAGECAVE OR ANY STORING SITES TO STORE PERSONAL DOCUMENTS MAKE SURE YOU SET YOUR FOLDERS TO PRIVATE AS THE FRAUDSTERS WILL STEAL YOUR DOCUMENTS AND USE THEM TO TWIST AND SUIT THEIR VENDETTA AGAINST YOU OR THE SITE. PERSONALLY I WOULD KEEP AN EYE ON THEM BUT NOT JOIN THEM.

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03-23-2008, 22:47 is where you post those receipts

Mar 24 2008, 02:26 AM is where I reply to you

So who started posting personal information Larry, can you answer that?

You stole a personal receipt and to you straight away, it was me doing the forging, if that’s what you thought and you are supposed to be a moderator of the forum that proclaims to protect ptr members and with set rules that you keep telling everyone, who has anything good to say about BG, shouldn’t you have posted that receipt blanking out the name but leaving the initials of the first and last name and then made your accusation?

I demanded that you remove it and you wouldn’t, so as I couldn’t find it in my album as I could swear I had deleted it when I realized I’d scanned my receipt instead of wil’s by mistake, I asked someone to delete it for me and made my album private.

Within hours another former moderator, the co-owner of the forum, supposedly a cop who had already shared the stolen private receipt put it back up.

So, who exactly provoked whom, can you tell me truthfully? Do I not have the right to retaliate?

You both did it out of spite and revenge.


I think daz may have been snooping around our albums for a while as he has been doing in BG forum, snooping around all those who dared speak against gptb, snooping through our profiles. That was the only purpose of his joining the forum and if I owned that forum, he would be deleted. This linking Amy’s article to Bg was all planned, as a moderator you could have changed the title and informed the thread starter but you chose not to, why?

The phone call was planned too, when the receipt numbers and dates proved you both wrong, you had to try and blame us for something else and isn’t it a nice coincidence that the phone call came from Australia but sorry to disappoint you I do not drink or frequent pubs, coffee is the strongest breverage I partake.

But should that phone call be true, it could have been your best mate wil, calling to check if the plan had worked. I think wil is still working with you as far as reporting etc…. and probably regrets falsifying that receipt even if it was to prove a point but it backfired and made gptb look worse, even Pietro didn’t agree with it at the time.

And bd just a note about your curiouser and curiouser remark about one being paid by cheque/m.o and one by visa.

A money order is a post office cheque just like a bank cheque and most businesses do not put down money order they put down cheque or visa or cash, that’s my explanation so feel free to twist and wring into the pot to stir but make sure the fan is not facing you.

So Larry and Ron please check how many times you, yourselves have posted your own information on gptb and other forums and who provoked whom before you cry wolf, as gptb looks worse than ever and by you own doing. No credibility, No Decency and play dirty games by bullying when they're caught with their pants down. And now you try to play the martyr with the forums blessings.


Oh! I have been receiving a lot of spam for the past few days is this happening to anyone else on BG? Is that a coincidence or the threat being carried out.

As always JMUPO

TO DAZ co-owner of GPTB

A WARNING TO ALL POs & CLICKERS - DO NOT PROVIDE YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION TO GET PAID TO BOYCOTT AND IF YOU USE IMAGECAVE OR ANY STORING SITES TO STORE PERSONAL DOCUMENTS MAKE SURE YOU SET YOUR FOLDERS TO PRIVATE AS THE FRAUDSTERS WILL STEAL YOUR DOCUMENTS AND USE THEM TO TWIST AND SUIT THEIR VENDETTA AGAINST YOU OR THE SITE. PERSONALLY I WOULD KEEP AN EYE ON THEM BUT NOT JOIN THEM.

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Insults???? what insults? I call them letting the truth show.

Didn't have TOO may posts. How about none before this Ms. observant. I didn't have anything to say before. I guess it just took me seeing a bunch of people (like those at GPTB) unjustly trying to hurt others that made me speak up.

MONEY?????? Now please please please tell me where that is at because I could sure use some right now. Where is this Money making opportunity your speaking of?
Don't tell me let me guess. Your gonna say Bill is paying me for all my posts. Was I right. Come on admit it. Thats what you were going to say.
Well Please put on your thinking cap honey. If that were true wouldn't I post a whole lot more then I do?
OPPS did I just make a good point and blow your money making theory all to Heck? Awwww shucks.

None of us in here stood up and joined this fight to get money. We did it because we wanted to finally show GPTB and its members for what it/they actually are. We want everyone to know that GPTB is the internets self proclaimed GPT protector with out a clue. And to show that its members are hurtful, vindictive and care nothing for the people that they step on and harm.

and to quote you!

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Oh my! Oh my! No dear, I said you stooped because you agreed with it being done and knew about it, so much for your “analytical mind”. Didn’t have much common sense though, did you? being a friend of his and knowing he was in Australia, why didn’t you ask him to phone the hospital and ask whether that receipt was paid on behalf of FCS and confirm the amount date and receipt number, huh! With friends like you who needs enemies? That would have been way too sensible for you to do and besides it was much more fun insinuating that one of the boycotters had been treated badly by the BG members, it help derail that thread further, didn't it? Bd that superiority complex of yours, is such a laugh.




She may have been but was she given your username, could she have tied the two together with just a name and address and amount, if she wasn’t given the username I doubt that she could and after that happened, did you contact Bill and voice your concern? I mean being so vocal in all things being done the right way I would hope that you did.

Yes, close down GPTB as it is now, it is a snakepit, simple how does a PO defend himself if he doesnt know where and from whom the complaints came from, how does he verify it and for that matter how does gptb verify it, use that analytical mind of yours dear. But the PTR Industry does need regulating but should be done legally and by unbiased staff.

The fact that we were involved in the discussion and most of us had never been in a discussion at that forum and the way we were treated is what made us take a good look at it and the old threads and saw how anyone who spoke up for any site got treated and what scams ponzis getrichscheme ads you were showing and yet chastising evey PO for even having one or two of those, that is why the discussion was taken to BG but you brought your pals over to incite and ridicule.



It’s a start and I’ve seen plenty of PO’s coming in and telling you just what they think of your system and remember there are some out there who are just too scared to speak up, because of the way they see others who do, treated by the lynch mob. Man there's a lot you don't know!

To you it may be as you are a one eyed supporter but there are members out there who can see both sides.

Yes people may have been paid out of sequence but do you know the reason, were their account in good standing, did you have inside information or what? Do you have proof why they were paid out of sequence and why?




Did he perhaps tell you what he thought and you didn’t like it? Or are you 'insinuating again' that we kiss butt?

As you say “The truth hurts, don’t it.”

JMUPO;)

TO DAZ co-owner of GPTB

A WARNING TO ALL POs & CLICKERS - DO NOT PROVIDE YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION TO GET PAID TO BOYCOTT AND IF YOU USE IMAGECAVE OR ANY STORING SITES TO STORE PERSONAL DOCUMENTS MAKE SURE YOU SET YOUR FOLDERS TO PRIVATE AS THE FRAUDSTERS WILL STEAL YOUR DOCUMENTS AND USE THEM TO TWIST AND SUIT THEIR VENDETTA AGAINST YOU OR THE SITE. PERSONALLY I WOULD KEEP AN EYE ON THEM BUT NOT JOIN THEM.

LMAO Bd you had to post because you were provoked? 24 hours if that after you said you would not be posting you posted any how in a thread that you at once said you ignored. If you were provoked it means nails were hit on the head or otherwise speaking the truth hurts.

Omg lol, I should go quit my day job with this lucrative money making opportunity, NOT!! lol



Is that not what boycott does? Shut down programs while endorsing programs who are eons behind in payment because they are friends with the owner of the programs. You know the reality of the fact is, if programs are closed down due to being boycotted, it makes less competition for those programs that are left unscathed by the boycott process. Simple.

The same question could be asked of boycott. As to the "lot of people" comment, it's more than what it takes to get a program boycotted and you all seem just fine with 10 unverified complaints.




Never enough to undo the damage that boycott has done to themselves. Please do keep it coming as it keeps adding more spikes into the coffin of boycott the longer they let this issue simmer. But BD, you don't see the simplicity of the entire stance of boycott, which there is none except to reap views of impressions for the money they earn from affiliate programs.

Fact of the matter is, the owners of boycott don't give a rats behind about any of you all over there because you are being used as pawns. If you all can not see that you are allowed to continue debasing, insinuating, name calling and the like, then I think the colored lenses you all look through should be removed.

Boycott has the power to shut down the bg threads and make it a non item of discussion and move forward onto their main mission which they have lead people to believe was getting the word out about bad programs. Bottom line is its not about getting the word out, its about getting visitors which equate to money.

Truth hurts does it not? And btw I have laughed my rear off at such vain attempts to make myself and others here look bad.

Please make your email addresses invisible in your profiles here or any other forums etc..., and also delete any private INFO of yourself which you may have posted in your profiles.

Several of us here now getting hit with SPAM as all one has to do is use the email addies that are visible to the 'spammers', be it from a forum or optained by searching google etc...

And please delete any private INFO of yourself, ANYWHERE, that you DON'T want gptB to get hold of and use to expose it.

Be careful what you give out, ANYWHERE, as all they have to do is use google to find it in most instances.

Several times now they posted peoples whole names, family members name and town that person lived in..

wagdoll posted:

OPEN your EYES and LOOK at HOW they "warn" and how they "evaluate," wagdoll.

Take that one sided blinder off and take a good look at the WHOLE picture.

If YOU had a PTR program and someone hacked into YOUR site that caused YOU to receive thousands of requests for payout all of a sudden, most of them bogus, what would YOU do?

And, what would YOU do if one of YOUR members went to GPTBoycott and started THREE threads, and a bunch of non-members jumped in to escalate the issue? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

THEN, to discover someone reported YOU to PayPal as an MLM, when you only have ONE level of referrals? And, PayPal furthers the problem by freezing YOUR account? And, later re-opens your accound without an apology for the inconvenience?

If YOU are as honest as I think you are (used to be, anyway), wagdoll , I think you would truly understand.

But, in THIS case, you don't even ATTEMPT to understand. You even admit you didn't "know" what was going on (hacking) yet, you had to stick your nose into this by HELPING to publish ranting emails that were MEANT for BGPay MEMBERS ONLY! You weren't even a MEMBER, wagdoll! So, who are YOU to carry out further actions for JUDGEMENT?

You say you "don't know where" you got those emails? In that case, why even post such? If you were a journalist and turned in such "report" to an editor, it would never have been published - for lack of showing the "source" of information.

So, who's your source, wagdoll? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm?

Was it Bell? Or some other member of BGPM with a vendetta? We can rule out Bell, of course, because she blatantly published the emails herself, which leads me to another question.

If someone has already published the rants, why would a non-member bother to add fuel to the fire?

To get a pat on the back? (Wouldn't that, in a sense, be what bluedahlia would call getting "brownie points?" She seems quite obsessed with that, you know, lol.)

Complaints from members? What about the anonymous complaints? What about non-member complaints that can only use what they've seen posted in forums as their reasons to boycott? (Which, as rules claim, is not allowed to be used).

WHO can EVALUATE anonymous complaints, wagdoll?

And, from one who doesn't even know all that was going on, how can YOU say those complaints were genuine? Just because the Admin of GPTB SAID so, and allowed them to be posted?

All I see is a bunch of vultures just waiting for something to kill. They even encouraged ianh, who posted in another forum, to got to GPTB and complain, so they could set up the trap. And, from there, zeroed in on the kill - just like they ALWAYS do -attacking anyone who dares to defend a program.


In this case it was but a temporary set back, and those vultures KNEW it.

Yes, I was naive to believe I could point that out, among other things, and, bluedahlia even "warned" me not to take it any further. But, I'm not a fence sitter, and BGPM was WORTH EVERY EFFORT to defend against the defamation of character, the lies, the criticisms. And, I will DEFEND that to the hilt!

I have no regrets at all, wagdoll. Yes, BGPM got boycotted, but, it sure opened not only MY eyes as to what GPTB REALLY represents, it opened the eyes of MANY others, what with what we FOUND and asked. The whole thing made people THINK TWICE!

And if YOU would LOOK at the OTHER side of GPTBoycott, you would SEE, yourself, that what they SAY and what they DO are two different things. And, HOW they go ABOUT IT is so DISPICABLE it makes even a novice wonder about their TRUE intent!

But, the irony is the more they post their crap, the more others SEE. And, though they CLAIM it is we who resort to the mudslinging, it is the only language THEY understand to get our point across. It is THEY who are DESTROYING their own haven - GPTBoycott!

And, the sad thing is, after seeing the problems we exposed - even some of you over there, did Rob DO anything about it? Bill had problems with hackers and false reporting, and FIXED the problems. Rob chooses to do NOTHING! NOTHING to IMPROVE procedures of boycotting since he created the site! In FACT, Rob did NOTHING to improve the moderation of his forums, or change the methods of ensuring complaints were legitimate.

Of course NOT, lol. As long as the money comes in from this "Jerry Springer" type of "show," why should he CARE whom gets hurt or defamed in the process?

GPTBoycott is NOTHING but a PO using PRETENSE for the sake of SHORT TERM GAINS by the use of affiliations with (Google AdSense, Bidvitiser) in a fraudulant manner.

Wake up, wagdoll, before you are swallowed up in that quicksand pit over there. Rob doesn't CARE about you or anyone else, or about his PURPOSE, which is PRETENSE. All he cares about is $$$$$! And, of course creating new "buttons" to further provide PO's with more free advertising for him?

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Take note of the date this was announced?

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03-25-2008, 20:53

Hmmmmmmmmmm, didn't even look about his "precious" site to check for potential violations of his forum rules, huh?

You know, like those that display personal names on screen shots of a document obtained by malicious means? Or the fact that his own moderator, Merlin, and co-owner PRODUCED such?

What's THAT "SHOW and TELL" people?

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Well I know that anyone who does NOT agree with you all (general) is mistreated there, but I have to say, where the heck was he/she ordering moderation if that thread?



that is exactly what davidj31 said would happen, and of course we knew that too,

you just confirmed it now




Hm, merlin, you angry at someone else and you threatening me?

If that is the case, the tit for tat would mean that any time you show someones real name I, or someone else, would have to post yours OR maybe one of your buddies ?

Is that how much you respect their privacy? Is that the game you want to play? And does that show the mentality of a 57 year old?

Talking about childlike attitude, at 57 you sure dont act like a grown person, you acting like a child who is having a hissy because he can't get his way and stomping his feet.

If you don't do this I will do that to you, neeener, neener, neeener, that is exactly how you act.





And you call that "backseat modding"



are you calling that thread of yours there 'done in a relatively sane manner'?

keep it open Pietro, we know you all need the traffic but we also know you all (know who you are) making fools of yourselves, so keep going



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Ditto BD , but as far as your little 'droll' comment, you all (u know who u are) got us beat, just read your own posts and see what a fool you making of yourself, I have to pick myself of the floor every time I read it and so do many others that I show it to keep it up, I do need my daily laughter

you mean like this:







Is that what you trying to tell 'enufalready'? how it all works at that circus?


And this here had me RAFLMAO



Pietro edited that out, what I'm wondering is why? first he says because it was supposed to be from a post in their forum, then he edits the other 2 saying because it was from another forum and has no place there.

like they ever worried where they got the links,mails, etc from, they certainly left everything in the bg thread and c/p as much as they could find from anywhere.





But hey, we talking about that circus over there and anything goes at any given time

Oh, needless to say that this particular member was banned from there

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Well now lookie here, I didn't even know I mailed you a payout until you mentioned it as I sure don't get a username, ONLY the nessecary INFO to pay any person.

And why did you NOT refuse it? Why NOT complain to Bill? Why NOT file a complaint with that circus at that time?

You figured it was ok, of course you did,why shouldn't you think so, because after all, you were paid, right

I have no clue who I'am paying unless I know the person itself by the name (which are very few and they know me), and I have no interest in knowing who is who, I simply make a payout.



You are so funny BD, should try stand up comedy

That might be your reason, to retaliate, but as far as I'm concerned, I do what I do because I see the wrong the circus is doing and is making no effort to change it, simple



First of all, take a good look at how MANY exactly keep posting at the BG thread at that circus, I can count those on my left hand.

Second, there are more then you are aware of, who have seen the light about you all,just take a look at how little is going on at your fav forum there and how few actually get involved as compared to way before, yup, gptB has lost it's credibility big time

Third, you all(u know who u are) have viciously attacked Amy and her family, but, her article spoke for itself and still stands

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Yup, she seen what is going on also,with those bogus UNVERIFIED complaints


Are Forums truthful and helpful?

Truth Behind Unfairness

The truth hurts, don't it, even if you don't AGREE or don't want to see it, there are plenty more out there who can see exactly what is going on at that circus and whether a site has been boycott or not has no bearings, the point is, they finally standing up to that c... over there

Ahhhhhhhhhh BD,Life is good!


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Like we said before, DO as I say, NOT as I DO is the MOTTO of that circus

Pietro, you seem to tell that particular person that NO mail addresses and full names are allowed to be posted at that circus, is that why merlins post with the full name was allowed to stay

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and here is Pietros answer:

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ALL but 2 of the above posts from merlin were made BEFORE he was a mod, (not really important but a fact none-the-less )



why shoudn't that casual comment stand?



What has been said to him by whoever is irrelevant, actions do speak louder and NONE was taken, not when he posted some disgustion and vile posts and NOT when he posted a full name, even though pietro, it was you who edited a full name out in somebody elses post, did you not?



There you go Pietro, your OWN post, a double standard as usual, the famous DO as I say, NOT as I DO , right?

Found this at the circus:



And this was the reply:



I don't know who enufalready is, but I sure do agree with him/her.

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Well let me see if I can make it more simple for you as the referrence to the "backseat modding" was for the post I quoted, so twist all you like the fact remains, the reply made by merlin was to that posters first post and I addressed you, because you posted the forum rules for that poster, so surely you had a opinion about it as EITHER post does NOT look like "backseat modding" to me.



Happy twisting truly



So do you call that "backseat modding",?





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you consider posting FULL names of someone NOT hurting anyone?

you can't get at Bill so you're using us as scapegoat how brave and manly is that?

I could write a sermon including quotes from this or that person and counter every one of them. But, for the sake of keeping from repeating some of them that have already been addressed here, I will use summary. The basis of my post are based on quotes already posted in this thread.

It's the same old stuff being nit picked and rehashed:

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Bellestraker with her long, drawn out, attempt at making sense of things but leaving bewilderment as to the her logic in "explaining" things as she sees it.

Even with the "shortage of forum mods" from as far back as the beginning of GPTBoycott, keep in mind, this "group" was not there, then, and even in the heat of debates, most posters abided by the rules.

As the site grew, so did violations of the rules. Quite a few GOOD, UNBIASED moderators left because it took too much time to keep up with it.

I think wil and Merlin could TASTE the "prestige" and "authority" that they think would come with being a moderator so bad that, when AmyLynn was appointed, they hit the roof and went off to dig up all they could, twist it to look bad to the point where AmyLynn figured it wasn't at all worth the humiliation and stepped down.

All I can say is Rob must have been desparate to appoint Merlin as a mod.

We ALL know the rules (posted) Merlin has been violating - even more so as a moderator, as he seems to have this concept that he is EXEMPT from rules just because he is now a moderator. But, boy does he thrash those rules to anyone new who comes there (enufalready, for example) to say their piece opposing what they are saying and doing.

While I can understand bellestraker's reasoning for "now" allowing anonymous complaints "after previous PTR members believe their accounts had been deleted and earnings confiscated from several GPTR programs for speaking out..." I disagree that such should be allowed.

Who's to say these people who were "deleted" from other sites were not cheaters of every program they joined?

Whom but most would even complain, but cheaters with a personal vendetta?

Don't get me wrong. I'm NOT saying there are programs out there that won't delete members when they get close to payout or accuse a member of cheating when they didn't, but, generally, honest members rarely complain and just move on.

That's the problem with having a "boycotting" system. Damed if you do and damned if you don't. So, why even HAVE it if you can't distinguish between who is cheating who, and those with what may or may not appear as a legitimate complaint by someone too afraid of the "consequences" to post who they are?

There are too many loopholes in the system to merit any beneficial results.

Eh, to continue, lol:

Trulyfair continues to kiss up to moderators by showing the "rule" that Merlin accused an unknown new poster (enufalready) of violating. Bluedahlia continues claim her bias and assumptions to be facts, and, of course, there is pietro fluffing his wanna-be authoritive feathers stating that until Bill succumbs to his demands, they will not close the BGPayMail thread over there.

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So, pietro, sweetie, does that mean you want the "power" to "control" what a webmaster can or can't display on their Home Page? Geeze, I thought this was a free enterprise. And, you "threaten" to never close that heaping helping of derogatory hospitality if Bill doesn't comply?

I mean, all we want is a few questions answered (which will always lead to more questions when they are not answered). And, all we are doing is pointing out some problems WE see that need to be addressed by GPTBoycott so they CAN improve on the PURPOSE of their site.

So, until y'all LISTEN to our feedback, well..........not trying to threaten you, mind you......... you give us no choice but to warn others to be warey of GPTBoycott and their shallow PRETENSE that attempts to hide their UNJUSTIFIED procedures and methods they use to boycott GPT sites. (You know what they are)

NOT that THAT is doing any harm anymore, lol, as more and more honest sites that you boycott SURVIVE GPTBoycott's abuse and they are starting to speak out against GPTBoycott. (Get the drift? People are getting TIRED of GPTBoycott crap and fighting back.)

Oh, one more thing. While I agree with most of what Judy said - that we will never see the PO's of either site change the way they run their sites - I still believe there IS a purpose - at least for us.

Our purpose, as fellow members of GPT is to HELP others in the GPT Industry stop being hurt by the likes of what GPTBoycott does. And, to let them KNOW they need NOT FEAR GPTBoycott's attempts to control their businesses. Your purpose has been fulfilled. You boycotted us. So be it. Let it go. Close that thread so we don't have to reciprocate in kind to your incites, assumptions, and inuendos. And, stop trying to RUN our BUSINESS with your demands and ultimatums.

The following will stand on the Home Page of BGPayMail as long as Bill deems necessarry. He has that right to do so and no one can deny him his views - no matter the threats, the underhanded tactics you use to defame his or our characters, our integrity, or our opinions.



Oh, and, here are the questions again, to display our own hospitality of convenience:

waving at truly fair, hello from halexzo and fight4justice

did you come to c/p the posts from here to share with the other boycotters?

Well,please do help yourself, but don't leave any crumbs please

Merlin You are telling Enufalready to post her personal information in PUBLIC right
Since when there is a rule at YOUR PUBLIC FORUM to post your private information?????

Isn't that the world turned around;
Add an anonymous complaint so there is no way to verify the complaint
and give up your anonymous Usename to post in a PUBLIC FORUM so everyone can see who you really are

I would suggest MERLIN to start first to reveal the real name of the Owner, co-owner moderator and hard core members of Boygot
So ALL would finaly know who are really invold to put YOUR SITE AT A BOYGOT LIST
If you are truly as intelligent as you think you are then you should have no problems revealing who you really are

second MERLIN
You give your members the puzzle to find out what you post as moderator and what as an individual
You are simple to dumb to understand the different between them yourself , how can you expact someone else can distinguish between those two.
No wonder nobody understands anything anymore what is post on your forum
but I DO KNOW YOU REALLY UNDERRATE THE INTELLIGENCY OF PTR readers in general to think you can get away with behavior shown towards Enufalready. IT TELLS ALL ABOUT YOU isn´t it


and please beware to all

Please make your email addresses invisible in your profiles here or any other forums etc..., and also delete any private INFO of yourself which you may have posted in your profiles.
Several of us here now getting hit with SPAM as all one has to do is use the email addies that are visible to the 'spammers', be it from a forum or optained by searching google etc...

And please delete any private INFO of yourself, ANYWHERE, that you DON'T want gptB to get hold of and use to expose it.

Be careful what you give out, ANYWHERE, as all they have to do is use google to find it in most instances.

Several times now they posted peoples whole names, family members name and town that person lived in

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When I started in the PTR world there were many sites that took my money with no feeling or caring! I thought GPTB was the site that was going to protect me from the Meany and help the honest owner, Yea RIGHT!
I opened my own sites to be fair to my member and one day learned I was being talked about in this forum and on it went for days
WHY you may ask? Simple I had at that time a nasty and horrible thought to have music on my site, YES folks this GPTB site was going to almost 3 years ago ban my site for music so THINK about that!
I was also talked about on a personal level when my site first opened so this is not the first time that GBPTB have gone for the jugular.
I know by posting this now in support of Bill, Rob or Merlin is going to maybe go after me that is their choice. If they do, again it will only show every one how truly pathetic GPTB really is, up to this point I have not made a personal comment, and will not everything I said it based on when has occurred about GPTB as a whole identity and why people should not believe anything they post as a forum. Now the sites I opened have been online for a long time paying its member just like BGPayMail and GPTB still does not have it RIGHT.

Oh, Since " I am only jumping on the band wagon to make money" Bill please email me the requirement of how many posts to make a million dollars !

Well said, windmaiden! I, too, think this has gone too far. Surprising, too, is that even Merlin agrees.

(And, hope Bill gives you an answer on that. He should as I don't think that is covered anywhere on the site. )

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So,now,finally, I think, at least on my part, I think both sides can meet half way on this.

I didn't think any of this should have been started anyway. After the boycott I don't think anything we do over here should have been any of GPTBoycott's business. When both threads fizzled out that last time it was clearly understood how we felt about GPTBoycott. Therefore, the link to AmyLynn's article should have NOT been a surprise to you, and if you had NO intent to discuss Bill then that thread should not have been titled: "Bill links to....." And, Merlin should never have "re-opened" the discussion for BGPayMail. As you well know, we don't just hush up and take your incite and bullying. We fight back.

Nothing here falls on deaf ears, Merlin. I wholeheartedly agreed with most of what Judy said, what enufalready said, and what windmaiden and RBNLOVESPOH said. But, it's up to you, Merlin, to be the first one to stop this, since it was you who re-opened the thread.

So, here's the deal (if all agree, that is).

Since it's rude and violating rules to publish personal information (including surnames) I think you and DAzHiredGun should remove the links to those inappropriately retreived screenshots of F4J's receipt for personal donation to that charity, (posts #2304 and #2308, and any other posts revealing surnames) and, hale, if all agree, can remove the personal names revealed over here.

That's only fair, since you proved nothing against f4j's integrity.

And, don't take this as a provocation, Merlin. It's a fair request in honor of those that stated their desire for all this to stop.

With due respect, I request that you, Merlin, make the first move.

Can't believe I am going to post this but here it goes anyway.

Excellent post Donna!!!

I posted there that I wish it would stop but it just keeps on going. Many think it is way over do for this mess to end. It seems also that many here feel the same way.

It has been going on long enough. Site is boycotted, maybe fairly or unfairly but it is done and over. As far as this tit for tat mess goes, I do not think that Merlin, being a moderator on GPTB is setting a good example for others. Whether it be as a moderator or member, he is posting as, it is not right to keep the crap going, period.

Bob

Thank you RBNLOVESPOH for your honest post and yes, BG is boycotted and I don't understand the obsession that gptB still has with the site here, well a few of the members there anyhow.

What we did pointed out was the flawed boycotting procedures that are used to boycott any site and the double standard that is displayed there and endless attacks against anyone not agreeing with it all, among other things that is.

The mudslinging started again with the thread, Bill is linking Amy............ and it kept getting worse , the attacks , insults etc... continued then on by merlin reopening the old BG thread calling me a liar when in fact it was he himself who lied.

Yes, we fought back in the same manner that we were spoken to (post) but when merlin and dazhiredgun optained a private receipt and posted the full name for all to see, that is what broke the camels back.

IT iS wrong and if it was anyone else doing that there, it would been immediatly edited out as many were done so by Pietro, but not so in the BG thread, it has been allowed to stay there even though fight4justice had asked for it to be removed.

Merlins tit for tat was done because he could NOT find anything on Bill so he retaliated on US and uses US as scapegoats which is wrong, any which way one looks at it.

Just now I see a post from him at boycott making more digs at another poster here, a WM actually.

And right after he had just said this:



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The post was done by windmaiden just a little while ago (you can read it on the same page here or click the link), and right away he jumped on her because she spoke her opinion here.


It does not seem merlin want anything to stop, I really do believe that he gets a kick out of it all.


I do however apriciate it very much for you to come here and speak what was on your mind RBNLOVESPOH , I know that could not been easy , so thank you again and maybe , just maybe something good will come out of it.


halexzo

A WARNING TO ALL POs & CLICKERS - DO NOT PROVIDE YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION TO GET PAID TO BOYCOTT AND IF YOU USE IMAGECAVE OR ANY STORING SITES TO STORE PERSONAL DOCUMENTS MAKE SURE YOU SET YOUR FOLDERS TO PRIVATE AS THE FRAUDSTERS WILL STEAL YOUR DOCUMENTS AND USE THEM TO TWIST AND SUIT THEIR VENDETTA AGAINST YOU OR THE SITE. PERSONALLY I WOULD KEEP AN EYE ON THEM BUT NOT JOIN THEM.

enufalready posted this:

This is Merlin's answer:



Merlin must be getting his jollies with keeping this thing going.

I'm really trying to hold my tongue here, but, I think Merlin has really no grace at all. Nor do the "others."

Just when there was hope this would all die down, here they come again!

Let's get this straight.

Who is responsible for ALL that is written in GPTBoycott?

Doesn't matter if it was a member or a dog that can read and type, there are people there with the AUTHORITY to REMOVE or EDIT.

IF THAT TITLE was NOT to INCLUDE discussion of Bill or BGPayMail, then ANY AUTHORITIVE person should have REMOVED Bill's NAME from the title!


It was YOU, Merlin, who accused ptrhost of derailing when the subject of Bill and BGPayMail came up, and it was YOU who decided to OPEN the OTHER THREAD!

All WE DID was point out that Bill's name should NOT be included in a title if Bill or BGPayMail wasn't the issue to be discussed.


You are PUSHING the LIMIT Merlin, even with a few of your own people.

I wouldn't be surprised if you don't wind up being banned if you keep it up!

Who do you CARE about, Merlin? GPTBoycott or YOURSELF and all the power and glory you think you have?

And, to those of you who come in there and add even MORE incite, what do you think YOU are doing but DESTROYING the very place you go to post!

I'm truly sorry, Judy, enufalready, windmaiden and RBNLOVESPOH. I tried.

But, as long as Merlin keeps at it, we have no choice but to STAND against that kind of crap.

At least if keeps "them" busy here and not hurting others.

Again, I truly apologize to those of you who don't want this to go on, but, if we stop now, all it will do is make Merlin think he can go on and do it to others.

Belle

In case you haven’t noticed my personal receipt has been there since the 23rd or 24th so yes we knew it would not be done in an hour but hoped it would be removed when they realised their mistake.

Their names and even email address of one can be found right on gptb forum posted by themselves, so much for moderating. The reason wil is mentioned is they object that the reference being there but who brought it to the forum by stealing it, was it ever posted anywhere? I explained how and why that was there and they are not willing to accept my explanation and besides seeing gptb proclaims to be lilywhite, wouldn’t it have made sense for them to either call the hospital and verify that receipt number and the one that wil falsified but no they thought they would show how they are vindictive and cover up for what he did “again” but made themselves look like fools. Instead they chose to use my stolen receipt & personal information as blackmail & even the bogus phone call (unless it was from wil checking how the plan was going), to silence us.

And this sort of this is allowed there too? Says a lot about gptb doesn't it?

Bg has to show a concerned effort to stop this before you go any further? I believe you have gone far enough as it is. Of course a member of boycott opened the thread but it is the forums choice as to let it open or close it. You also had the choice to leave the other bg thread closed or not and you choose to reopen it. Rationalize away but it does not justify the means.

What is your problem? Bg was boycotted yet anything you can find to agitate, you do and use it to start the crap again.

As far as your name and whoever elses name has been made known to the public is fair game for you, but not when on the other foot.

As for facts as to how this all transpired.

1. ONE complaint of non payment in May 2006, first payment took 5 weeks to receive and the second payment was 2 days late at the time of his posting.

-members were made aware of the paypal issue
-the member was eventually paid

-exactly 3 posts made in that thread

2. A month later the same person starts a thread about Bg in June 2006

-saying paypal no longer an option and it looks like this one is falling apart

3. Belle the naysayer now said in 2006:



4. Then you have the so called debater start adding in his 2 cents worth asking questions but rarely answering those asked of him.




5. The first 38 posts were made mostly by ianh, wil, belle and dc in an attempt to show the other side of the coin, then post 39 merlin jumps in already against bg.

6. Belle posted a bg email where bg is supposedly being so degrading. Decide for yourself if it is degrading, naming names or just a statement of fact.

7. Mid June Bd joins the thread. Basically at this point non committal. Pg 8, even a few posts later stated she admired bills tenacity and hoped it worked out.

-to this point the banter continues mainly between wil, belle, bd and dc then merlin jumps in again with his all knowing attitude.

8. A second email posted by belle. Again decide if it was that bad as it still did not name names.



9. Merlin from the beginning with his welcoming attitude.

10. The thread is kept alive by wil, merlin, truly, bd and those supporting bg. It goes from bad to worse.

-before it was closed bd blamed the bg supporters for receiving 5 complaints and being put on the watch list



Aloryic closed the thread in feb 2007.

A second thread was started June 2006 by the original complainant of late payment. The name calling and accusations against bg proliferated into a boycott of the program. 10 complaints received that have yet been given proof that they were verified.

Anyone can complain about a site, no user name required, how can that kind of complaint be verified.

Eventually wil dropped out of the debate, merlin, bd, truly and a few others continued the thread. Belle returned to the thread a changed woman, fangs out ready to draw blood with her buddy bd.

Merlin has been backed by a co owner of boycott forum and another moderator for his behavior and lack of etiquette when it comes to speaking to others.

When the same was returned in kind, foul is cried and more and more dirt they try to find to discredit anyone and everyone who has taken up for Bg.

Rather than answering questions or better yet, closing all bg threads as a dead topic of discussion because goal achieved they continue to let it fester.

The boxing gloves came off esp after someone falsified a receipt for purposes none other than to try to discredit bg. The name calling and gestures with words has continued. The dirt is still trying to be found on those here, and the not so nice things have been found out about boycott who has not really wanted to be known.

Keep digging for gold, maybe you will hit the jackpot merlin. That is if you don't give yourself an MI before you all decide to go on with the business at hand which was what page views for money or was that deciding the fate of the competition in which you don't want for your webmaster buds?

I agree, Donna. Several people have made sincere attempts to bring this war to an end, but it's obvious the posters at gptb don't want it over. In my opinion, they are simply proving our point that they want the traffic to increase page views and put more money in someone's pocket.

All they have to do is close the thread and delete personal info, but it seems that is not gonna happen anytime soon. It's kinda a shame, really. They just can't see the damage they are doing to their own forum. Well, so be it.

The thread was locked. Thank you to whomever closed it.

On behalf of Bill,

this is in reply to all the SP's question HERE

"It is on the site of BGPayMail since '03, and many, many that

understand, or understood IT, are happily on their way to enjoy a less taxing daily life,

one can lead a horse to the water, but one cannot make it

drink, even from a crystal clear brook"

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Pietro, there is NO ' supposedly ratted out', there are FACTS in black and white.

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Post #2377:



Not trying to "stir" anything here, ok? But, I DO have a few questions and points, please.


Why the obsession with what a person says or does within his own realm of business?

Why should y'all CARE what one says or does, if, as some of you clain, GPTBoycott is a GOOD place to go for information?

In all honesty, I think Bill is doing y'all a favor by directing more traffic to GPTBoycott, don't you think?

I mean, if after they read OUR forum, wouldn't THAT lead them to reading GPTBoycott thread for comparison?

What are you afraid of?

If what WE point out is the negative, wouldn't YOU be GRATEFUL for the lead to GPTBoycott so they can also SEE what y'all claim as being POSITIVE?

After all, GPTBoycott IS justified, so y'all say, in their decisions to boycott, aren't they?

So, why PUSH for the removal of simple statements made by a Webmaster, whom invites people to look at BOTH sides?

Why NOT just let it be and let people SEE for themselves?

Oh, no need to "bet" anything, pietro, as, only a fool would bet against you.

But, I AM thankful to whomever did close the thread over there.

So, let's see what happens by Tuesday, shall we?

Because IF that thread IS re-opened, all IT will show is that your AIM IS to continue your attempt to control PTR - and THAT, my dear, WILL NOT HAPPEN!

Your attempt to CONTROL another's business with threats to keep a thread closed or open is no more POWERFUL than the magic of a wizzard.

ALL we want is to be left alone to run our business as we please. Do THAT, and everything else will fall into place.

There's no NEED for self-appointed means to CONTROL the GPT Industry. There are MANY articles (yes, even in GPTBoycott) that are quite helpful in TEACHING those involved in GPT get started and/or learn as they go. TEACHING and one's own EXPERIENCE is all that is needed to help people avoid scam and fraud.

And, there are plenty of forums already available for sharing experiences - some even without the bias and mudslinging - imagine that! Too bad, though, that the GOOD forums that DO that make no profits from such, huh?

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Are you adult enough or really were a Judge as you claim to take a good look at what your ex cop and IRS informant have done, I wonder how you would have judged them had they be in front of you in court, would you have turned a blind eye because they are your friends? Or is GPTB finally showing their MAFIA mentality. Did they buy the judge and ex-cop? Add INTIMIDATION, BLACKMAIL to your NO CREDIBILITY, AUTHORITY OR REGISTERED LEGAL LICENSE (well the MAFIA didn’t have those either, did they, Pietro?) The ball is in your court Judge.


My joke wasn’t too far wrong was it?








A WARNING TO ALL POs & CLICKERS - DO NOT PROVIDE YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION TO GET PAID TO BOYCOTT AND IF YOU USE IMAGECAVE OR ANY STORING SITES TO STORE PERSONAL DOCUMENTS MAKE SURE YOU SET YOUR FOLDERS TO PRIVATE AS THE FRAUDSTERS WILL STEAL YOUR DOCUMENTS AND USE THEM TO TWIST AND SUIT THEIR VENDETTA AGAINST YOU OR THE SITE. PERSONALLY I WOULD KEEP AN EYE ON THEM BUT NOT JOIN THEM.

LOL Pietro, you think others are stupid and don't see the little game you playing?

You took share ShareAdSpace_Ro post and made a bet on it, how adult like is that?



You BETTING it will NOT be done what he threw out there and you give it a certain time to be done?

Nothing about your alls name calling, attacks, lies, accusations etc.... and posting of FULL NAMES,which WAS the last straw that broke the camels back.

Yet you in such a hurry to edit every other post that has FULL NAMES/PERSONAL INFORMATION in it:

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and how about this one:



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You are some hypocrite , that shows clearly, keep showing how bias you really are, shows exactly what that circus is made of.

The ONLY reason you allow it to stand is because it is a member at BG here, and the ONLY reason merlin posted that is because he is using US as scapegoats as he CAN'T find anything on Bill whom he really likes to get back at . What a cowardly thing to do on merlins part.

Nothing about anything you all do there at that circus exept to close the thread.

I for one DON'T respond well to threats or demands from people I have NO respect for either.You wan't to close the threat and keep it close, do so,you want to keep it open, be my guest for all I care.




The fools are you all (u know who u are) and like I said before, seems you all are Rob's 'skirts', who are running his show, or will the man behind it step up and answer some questions and try to clean that circus up?

Hi trulyfair, waving at you I see you came to visit us again

You know you have to wait till tueday 1 am to post though, Pietro will open the thread again at that time, I BET on it (you know, him being the 'ADULT' post )at that circus, so patience, you get your turn

It may/may not have been the truth or were they all (mostly being publishers) at gptb, jealous that Amy was getting paid for her article whereas they weren’t for theirs?

Was there a need to report her? As they themselves say :-



Right on judy03, she would have been caught in the end.

But I think that thread was started out of pure jealousy and they thought it would be a good way to get Bill to remove his opinion of GPTB.con off his homepage but all they’ve done is proved how low they are willing to stoop again, if anyone speaks up against them. And that Amy Lynn is right as far as not giving gptb your personal information and I will add to that, that “IF” they do not have your information, they will steal it in any way they can.

So is Amy Lynn really lying in that article, gptb?


Where you thought you’d kill two birds with one stone, you killed yourself off

If and that’s a big IF Amy Lynn is lying about anything in her article, what you have proven IS that you will do anything to get your way. Are you (the main posters) at gptb any better than she is? You have “cast more doubts” about yourselves and people are noticing the truth about GPTB and asking questions?


What the PTR community need is LEGAL ARBITRATION not ILLEGAL DICTATORSHIP by self appointed ruffians!!





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Are you adult enough or really were a Judge as you claim to take a good look at what your ex cop and IRS informant have done, I wonder how you would have judged them had they be in front of you in court, would you have turned a blind eye because they are your friends? Or is GPTB finally showing their MAFIA mentality. Did they buy the judge and ex-cop? Add INTIMIDATION, BLACKMAIL to your NO CREDIBILITY, AUTHORITY OR REGISTERED LEGAL LICENSE (well the MAFIA didn’t have those either, did they, Pietro?) The ball is in your court Judge.


My joke wasn’t too far wrong was it?








A WARNING TO ALL POs & CLICKERS - DO NOT PROVIDE YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION TO GET PAID TO BOYCOTT AND IF YOU USE IMAGECAVE OR ANY STORING SITES TO STORE PERSONAL DOCUMENTS MAKE SURE YOU SET YOUR FOLDERS TO PRIVATE AS THE FRAUDSTERS WILL STEAL YOUR DOCUMENTS AND USE THEM TO TWIST AND SUIT THEIR VENDETTA AGAINST YOU OR THE SITE. PERSONALLY I WOULD KEEP AN EYE ON THEM BUT NOT JOIN THEM.

LINKTake note pietro closed the thread on 03-30-2008, 05:40.

Yet, he " Last edited by pietro : 03-30-2008 at 20:56." by adding this:

And, this:



Are other's allowed to go into their posts and "add" to "their" comments after a thread is closed?

And, for what? To make yet, another snide remark to incite us to keep posting? What's that going to prove, pietro?

I don't give a flying hoot whether or not you close a thread. I don't even give a hoot who GPTBoycott boycotts or discusses.

What I DO detest and will ALWAYS fight against is those who stick their noses into other people's businesses, using derogatory remarks to ruin them and trying to control what they can and can't do.

When are you going to get this through your head, pietro?

GPTBoycott has brought their own demise. They are DONE! Nobody's AFRAID of the wanna-be-mafia tactics y'all use anymore. People are SEEING through the pretense.

Bill will do what Bill sees FIT to do with his business. GOT THAT?

And, I bet he don't give a flying hoot, either, WHAT you demand.

You have NOTHING left to do but insinuate that he hides behind skirts? And you have the audacity to belittle Bill's ability as a business man?

Sweetie, it takes a MAN to STAND by his own actions and, trust me, there ain't no BETTER MAN of BUSINESS than the man that owns BGPayMail!


The only "GARBAGE" you see is the reflection of your OWN! So, I suggest you CLEAN IT up instead of "adding" comments to your last post AFTER you closed the thread!

And, you know, F4J, that got me to thinking, too, about AmyLynn's reference to the personal information thing, but, to me, that wasn't as important as the other things she said.

Jealousy is the main reason they reported her, but, I also think that by reporting her they thought the article would disappear, too. There IS DAMAGING evidence there, as she told it like it is. And a lot of people can relate to the abuse they received from that GPTBoycott crew.



That's the whole thing about them. The abuse: personal attacks, digging up unnecessary private information and twisting it for the purpose of incite. And, for what? What are they getting out of it? We ALL know what Rob is getting out of it, but, what are "they" getting out of it?

If it's not a "piece of the profits," all I can say it's a hell of a way to draw attention to themselves.

They say what we do here is damaging to BGPayMail, lol. What's to damage here? Their own reflection of what they do there?

BGPayMail is a PTR site. THEY are a boycotting site - you know, lol, like a self appointed regulator of some sort that tries to tell PTR owners what they can and can't do. Good site owners are advised to ban the promotion of boycotted programs and to promote GPTBoycott for free, lol. And, even after boycotting they STILL try to tell boycotted sites what they can and can't do, or they will bring up even more derogatory remarks and further defamation of character.

Who the HELL do they THINK they ARE?

Oh please Mr. judge pietro, don't say I hide behind a skirt. I'll do ANYTHING if you stop saying that.

YEAH, RIGHT! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What are you gonna do, pietro? Open the thread and hang yourselves even more? Or be the polite little wanna-be-comptroller judge and close the thread permantly?

If you can't get your mudslingers and even moderators under control by enforcing your own rules, what makes you think you can control PTR?

No offense, my dear pietro, but, maybe you should come off that high horse you think you're on and open your eyes to virtual reality.

GPTBoycott HAS NO POWER, NO AUTHORITY, and NO CONTROL over ANY GPT PROGRAM!

You can't even control your own mudslingers! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

LINK

What authority you have to ask ANYONE what to do or how to run their site?

You are NOT NO kind of authority to make ANY DEMANDS



Of course you had hoped we quietly go away, we do all that you demand and you do nothing, leave the threads, insults, attacks, assumptions, lies and FULL REAL NAMES etc...., what dreamworld you live in?





that is why you opened a new thread LMAO, gee whiz, how long did it take you to think that one up?

You DONT have any guts Pietro, you make some insinuations that we lied with your "supposedly "ratted" out program owners to Paypal" (for which we showed proof)and expect us to let it stand as such? The you conviniently close the thread, what a guy

On top of it you make a bet and put a time limit on it? You have got to be kidding to think you had ANY right to do that, NOR does it show you acting as an ADULT, more like a fool from the way I see it

You shown such bias when it comes to BG and I don't give a rats .... what you or the others of that gang (u know who u are ) think about that, everybody has seen it and knows how you operate, and you claim to be a former judge/laywer.




Well well well,now if you have NOT seen the DOUBLE STANDARD at that circus before, you certainly SEE it now.

Tell me Pietro, since when does it take a formal complaint to remove private Info at that Circus?

Is that the way you work? Let it stand because it is a member from BG? Or you don't have the gut to remove it because merlin and dazhiredgun posted that PRIVATE information?


like you and the others (u know who u are)don't come here every day to see what you all can twist around. Keep making a fool of yourself Pietro, we knew it already, now others do to.

What about those edits you did on your OWN? where NO demands/requests were made for?Did anyone asked you to do those? as a matter of fact I even read this here asking you not to edit anything out:




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And what is your reply Pietro:



Gee whiz, you had to come up with something to justify your editing members id's out yet you say this?



Does that make any sense at all?Only shows what a bias person you are and what a fool you making of yourself and that circus.



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And what about even removing members ID's (usernames it seems) here:

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Did merlin (or dazehiredgun) had permission to post fight4justice REAL NAME?



No Pietro, it makes the one who posted the above request look ignorant,simple.

And while we at this, you did have one thing right in this post you made:



The only thing that made sense in your post was "from the cons and rats in the "snake pit", you described yourselves (u know who u are) perfectly.



whether your account exist or not, is of NO concern to me, you NOT that important to me.

And you don't know who is deleted or not, or do you have access to the site? Just because a few of you (u know who u are) were NOT deleted does NOT mean that nobody else is, does it now?

seems the "representatives" of gptB" - including its owner - have no desire to make any real changes for the better.

We can only hope that others will see this to now be a fact that the circus over there has only one rule:

DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO is their motto and they (u know who u are) will attack, lie, accuse, assume, insult, etc.... anyone who does NOT agree with them.



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you speaking of yourself and that circus again?better watch it, Pietro may edit it out.

Your little bunch of hipocracy can continue for what little time it has left. Yes,I said left because I feel you are little....little in numbers,little in stature and intelligence and full of bias.

Oh no, I forgot, it has to be a FORMAL REQUEST NOW for him to edit anything. We see



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you got that right, that circus there is full of those and you know who I mean

ETA: Pietro, the subject of your NEW thread about BG should been"So much for "I demanded/blackmailed they didn't fall for it", it would been more to the truth of what you did.

This is to the head stirer at that circus who posted this:


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answering to this post here:

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We know you like to stir BD, one thread about BG was closed another one opened, yet that still is not enough for you, is it now?

You had to mentioned BG, in a thread that has NOTHING to do with it, as usual, stiring as much as you can

Your remarks are laughable. You sound like a parrot, not having the capability to make a post without realizing you making a fool of yourself, over an over again, like you said,too many fruitcakes around and you one of those